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Studs, days 3 and 4…

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Posted on July 5, 2014 by

On Friday, another friend, John H., drove 4 hours (from Canada) to help out for a couple days.  Unlike my previous volunteer help, John builds for a living.  So, he brought a bunch of tools and experience with him.

For those who want the timelapse video first:

And then the story..

I knew John was a pro when the first thing he did on site was plug a tool box with all his chargers pre-wired up inside it.  I had been carrying and plugging in all my chargers separately, so this was revolutionary for me (I have since put my own toolbox full of chargers together).

In fact, John quietly demonstrated a quicker way to do pretty much everything I was doing.  The most important thing was simply using an impact driver to get the metal screws into the studs without pre-drilling.  Yes, that may sound pretty basic to many of you, but I didn’t realize how much better those were at driving self-tapping screws into steel.  I had just assumed that my driver couldn’t handle it because the screws were not designed for the 20 gauge steel.  I ended up buying my own impact driver Friday night so I could be much more productive on Saturday.

John H. also brought a radio, which Sherri thought made the construction site much more official.  The radio “game” was to hit seek whenever we heard something that we really hated…  We ended up listing to a lot of country, which is not my usual genre.  Maybe I will get a radio eventually also.

John also had a better hammer drill and reciprocating saw than I did.  I guess I was always trying to save money and just ended up wasting time with tools that were not really up to the task.  I also ran out of screws on the first day, so the next morning, John wanted me buy the “big” box…  I said I didn’t think we needed that many, and John said, “Simon, you are building a house!”  Point taken.

However, working with this style of construction (Steel studs, metal lath, strap and shotcrete) was as new to John as anybody, so we were still figuring things out as we worked.  For instance, we found that installing the metal strap before the metal lath was much more efficient.  It made it much for straight forward for us to plumb the studs in the second direction so we could hang the metal lath without pulling it later.  This kept everything flatter.

I am still working out the best methods for attaching the metal lath, but I will write up whatever I figure out at the end.  At this point, it looks like the 2.5 lb/sqyd lath is more cooperative than the 3.4 lb/sqyd lath.  Making sure the lath is stored in a nice flat spot and no one steps on it is also important (sections of my wall will have a big footprint in them). The lath comes in 27 inch wide strips and we found that it is not worth overlapping.  4 of the strips, edge to edge, adds up to 9 ft, which is the exactly what I needed to cover the walls from bottom to top, we will just need to wire them together later.  But the most important thing so far is that you can’t use the lath to pull studs into position…  It is good at holding the position of the studs, but if you try to use the lath to pull the studs, you just end up with surface buckles and ripples.  It is better to re-adjust the straps to control the studs and then add the lath later.

On Friday, we ended up erecting the 20 ft studs in the play room apse and tying them into the surrounding 9ft studs and door bucks.

Initially assumed we would dig in the footings.  When plans changed, I forgot to plan for filling the footings.  Doing it with a wheel barrow would have taken a lot of time (or a lot more friends).  We tried to hire some high school and college kids so we could keep working on the steel, but none were available right away.   Then it occurred to me that the excavator’s biggest piece of equipment was still on site and could probably reach over the steel we had already erected.

We called the excavator first thing Saturday morning and he was available.

It took him a while to get setup, during which time, the sand around my site nearly collapsed and dumped his giant machine into the site.  He got himself back onto stable ground and managed to dump the sand in several locations.  He says it was about 12000 lbs of sand per scoop and he did about 10 or more scoops in 45 minutes.  I would hate to think how long that would have taken with wheelbarrows.   John and I spread most of it out right away, and then took a break.  The day was half over.

Then we got in a couple window bucks…  That took about an hour as we figured out how to attach them to the steel and make everything solid, plumb and level.  Then we got in some more metal straps and a bunch more metal lath before the end of the day.

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Next week, my sister (Bonnie) will come out to help for a few days.

 

Studs, Day 1 and 2

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Posted on July 3, 2014 by

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If you are just looking for the time lapse, here it is:

 

For more of the story…

The steel studs arrived on Tuesday July 1st, stacked nicely at the end of my driveway…  It looks like only one of the 9ft studs was damaged (see the inset), but I had anticipated some loss and ordered extra studs, so no problem.

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My wife (Sherri) and I went out there for a few hours on Wednesday and got the first corner with 10 studs up.  I had bought the self-tapping screws, but my drill couldn’t drive them into the 20 gauge steel, so I was forced to alternate my single drill between the drill bit and the Phillips driver.  Other than the poor tool situation, we were pretty happy with how easy it was to get the studs in and plumb.

We had one issue after we put in a stud where the track was only fastened by a single screw.  We got called away (by my skid steer being delivered) and by the time we got back, the wind had blown it over and bent the track…  From then on, we always made sure that every stud was well connected to a piece of track that was well connected to the footing right in the same section.

Johns_StairsThen on Thursday, my brother-in-law, John R, used up another one of his vacation days to come and help out.  John started by fixing the “stairs”, which was a mixed success initially, but now, after some repairs and settling in, are pretty helpful.

I brought my second cordless drill so we could use one to pre-drill and the other to drive the screws in…  I also found that my hammer drill (connected to my generator and run in “drill only” mode) had a lot of power for easy drilling.  We worked together and made pretty good progress.  By the end of that day, we had raised most of the 9’ studs and a couple rows of metal lath to help tie it all together.

My biggest concern was that the metal lath was not lying flat.  It would look fine to start, but then later it would bow in or out.  Clearly we were doing something wrong (we figured it out, mostly, on subsequent days ;^).

At 6:00, we quit and started playing with the skid steer.  I moved some of the big boulders down to the bottom of the driveway and scooped some soil to put in front of the steel shipping container (we had quite a step down because we had jacked it up to make it level).  Along the way, we found a couple problems.  The skid steer really tears up the sand and, in the process, wastes most of its power.  It has two new tires, but they are in the front (probably because it is easier to change the front tires on a skid steer).  The back tires (where I need the power during digging) are pretty bald…

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However, I don’t think new tires will be enough of a solution.  Instead, it looks like I may need to get some “Over the Tire” tracks  (OTT), and those are pretty expensive.  So far, used ones are hard to find and new ones cost 25% to 45% of what I paid for the Skid Steer.  Another issue is that the right throttle doesn’t seem to work as well as the left, especially in reverse.   Skid Steers are like a tank with each side driving forward or backward based on pushing that lever forward or backward.  If one side doesn’t keep up properly, it makes it a bit tricky to drive straight.  I will get my Dad to take a look when he comes down to help out the 3rd week of July.

Steel Track

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Posted on June 29, 2014 by

After completing the footings, the next step was to erect the steel studs and metal lath that we would shoot the concrete (shotcrete) against.  You can think of the steel studs as fancy integral formwork.  I had had some trouble up front getting the steel ordered, particularly the steel studs.  So I went with another company to at least get the track (including Flextrack) ordered.  This let me put the track down first while I wait for the steel studs to arrive.

Track&StudsBasically, track is needed to hold steel studs in place.  The studs hold the metal lath and the metal lath will catch the shotcrete and shape the walls.

I originally had this part of the job in my gantt chart as a 6 days’ worth of work starting the first week of May, so I started last week about 7 weeks behind.  To make matters worse, I ended up working on it over several partial days spread across a week and I haven’t even started on the vertical steel studs.  I would guess that by the time I am caught up on putting in the steel studs, I will be about 8 or 9 weeks behind.  Winter is coming, but I will resist the pun of saying that I am working to get back on “track”.

There is definitely a learning curve, but I consider the basement as practice for the main level and I was definitely faster by the end (as you can see in video).  Knowing my velocity (per ft of flex track or straight track) lets me better estimate the time (and resources) I will need to complete the main level.

Here is the time lapse video.

On to the story.

Like an ant moving a mountain, I am just doing things one bit at a time and trying not to be overwhelmed or forget anything.  For this past week, the first step was preparing a simplified version of my drawings (a basic shop drawing) with just the door buck and track dimensions labeled.

Measure twice, cut once…  But first make sure you know what the measurements should be.  And simplifying the drawing to show just what you need does help…  But make sure you also have an idea of the other bits that will interact with that or you could get yourself in trouble.

The next bit was putting together the bucks.  I decided to do that at home where I have a chop saw and a garage to work in.  I cut and labeled all the pieces and loaded them (un-assembled) onto my trailer.  The bucks are made from 2×6 treated lumber.  They are 6 inches taller than normal because I am fastening them to the footing and will come back and cut off the 6 inches at the bottom after the shotcrete walls are in place.  Then I will pour a floor to make up that 6 inches.

Others might have built the walls on top of the floor, but my “wall first” approach uses the floor as a shear plane against lateral earth loads.   “Walls first” also makes the shotcrete installation much easier because it covers up the joint between the wall and the floor (so they can be less picky about it) and because they don’t need to shovel the “rebound” out of the basement.  Rebound is the “pea stone” and cement that bounces off the wall during the shotcrete process.  It can be up to 10% of the volume of the walls, which for my basement would be nearly 4 yards.  Lugging rebound out of the basement would have been hard work for the shotcrete crew and would have cost me a lot of money.

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I added my generator to the trailer (needed to power my hammer drill) and headed to pick up my supply of steel.  The look on the guys face when I pulled up told me he was pretty sure it was amateur hour, they told me that there was no way they could load my steel onto that trailer.  I quickly told them that, “This steel order weighs 660 lbs.  I already have 332 lbs of 2x6s, 55 lbs of 2x4s and the generator weighs 163 lbs.  My trailer can handle 1100 lbs and my car can two 2000 lbs, so we are all good.”   I had just guessed at the generator weight, but my rapid fire numbers somewhat startled the loading dock guys for a moment and convinced them that I was serious.  While they were recovering, I quickly took the back and side off my trailer and unloaded the generator so they could set the pallet of steel down with the fork lift.  One of the guys helped me load my generator back on top again.  Still a bit concerned, they asked me how far I was going. All I could say was, “All the way.”

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Sherri said I should probably never show anyone this picture (above), but I think it shows that “where there is a will, there is a way”, even if you can’t afford to look like a pro and you end up being chuckled at by a couple of loading dock workers.

My Brother-in-law, John R., came out to help me assemble the bucks.  With everything pre-cut, it was pretty straight forward.  We would have screwed them into place, but I forgot my hammer drill.  It took more than half an hour to get three Tapcon screws in with my regular drill.  That was a waste of time, so we focused on leveling the steel storage container and getting ready for more productive days ahead.

To level the 4800 lb steel container, we used a hydraulic mechanics jack to lift one side and then we stacked bits of waste concrete (that the trucks had dumped on the sand) like a dry stack foundation wall.  It looked pretty cool; I should have taken a picture before we covered it with sand.  The process went pretty smoothly, but it was hot & tiring work, so I really appreciated John’s help.

As a consolation prize, John went home with a really bad sun burn.

I came back on my own with the hammer drill and got to work on the steel track.  The footing is full of ¾ inch stones.  It is a lumpy surface to work on, and depending on the underlying stone, the drill could go thru like butter or struggle and fail to penetrate at all.  I often found that moving a few inches over was easier than trying to push thru a hard spot.  Sometimes I had to try 2 or 3 spots before I found a good one.

After drilling the pilot hole, I would switch to my socket drill to drive in the Tapcon screw.  I quickly found that the torque setting on my drill was also helpful.   If I set it above 15, the Tapcon screw heads would just snap off.   Still, it was often a frustrating struggle to get the Tapcons to screw into the harder spots. I worked until I ran out of screws and my cordless drill batteries were dead.

You may think I should have planned better and brought the charger, and you would be right, but at the time, I was tired and glad to have an excuse to go home.

 

The next day was my oldest son’s 10th birthday.  I ended up taking him out to the property to help out.  Having learned my lesson, I took my dwalt battery charger with me so I could charge one battery with the generator while using the other one in my driver.  On the way, we stopped and picked up some more Tapcons.  I also bought a box of smaller Tapcons (3/8ths instead of ¼), to see how they compared.

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My initial plan was to use the larger Tapcons on the ends of the studs and the smaller ones between, but that was hardly necessary.  The smaller Tapcons were just so much easier to drill and screw than the large ones. I ended up using up the box and buying another rather than keep using the larger Tapcons.  The smaller 3/16ths Tapcons also cost 35% less than the ¼ inch.

I started out using ¼ inch Tapcons which have 1160lbs pull out and 900 lbs of shear resistance.  Clearly that was overkill.  The 3/16ths Tapcons had 900lbs pull out and 720 lbs of shear resistance, which should be more than enough to keep the wall in place while the shotcrete is applied.  For the door bucks, I used several of the large ¼ inch by 3-3/4 inch Tapcons.

 

For the flex track, I bought very simple track.  It doesn’t have the metal straps or locks or other “structural features”.  It is simply cut so that it will stretch on one side.  The shape is held by screwing it to the concrete.  The fancy “structural” flex track is ~$2.70/ft and the simple stuff I bought is only ~$1.19/ft.

I had marked the footings at the right radii so I could lay my track.  As a novice, I pulled the track into position, the stretching was uneven.  I later learned that I could get a much more precise (and rapid) curve by inserting a screw driver and twisting to widen the outside side of the track.  More experience and I found that two twists in opposite directions resulted in a more level track.

The close up install video is here.

I had to go back for a third day to put in a last few hours and get the job done before my son’s birthday party this weekend.

Next step is a small job of putting together the window bucks while I wait for the vertical studs and scaffold tower to arrive.  Both should arrive next Wednesday, along with some family and friends to help erect it all.