As you may recall, my design features pre-cast concrete arches to support the heavy earth loads and let me have open spaces without requiring large spans. I had some old posts about how these will be built, and even my own experiment to build quarter scale models.
I did get quotes on having these ribs done by professional concrete pre-casting companies. One even sent me nice faux stone concrete samples, but when the cost estimates came back, they ranged from $40K+shipping to $80K (with shipping) for the 10 ribs… I thought that was ridiculous considering that each rib only used about 130$ worth of concrete and less than 200$ worth of rebar. I asked the companies how many forms they would make and what they would make the forms out of… All three said that 10 was a small order, so they would just make 1 form out of wood…
Obviously, they were charging way too much and I was going to have to take this into my own hands… I had designed the ribs to be cast easily in a 1ft deep form. I could do this.
But first, I wanted to make a computer model to figure it all out.
My model revealed that the cost of reusable parts, assuming I went with a rather expensive Melamine base and 2 layers of 1/4 inch smooth plywood for the side walls, would be about $575. I would probably make 2 in order to cut down on crane visits (the crane will have to come at least 5 times with 2 forms). Then each rib would require about $350 worth of rebar, concrete, etc. I also decided that I would need to buy a concrete polisher (wet) ($200) and a sawsall concrete vibrator attachment ($50).
All told, that would mean about $1150 for the 2 forms, plus $3600 for the rib materials, plus $250 for tools, which gives less than $5000. If I add 20% to cover misc, it comes to $6000. I plan to work out a deal with the concrete company to rent their crane for a reasonable cost. They currently use it to place pre-cast septic tanks which are about the same weight (35 cuft at 130 lbs each is 4550 lbs, plus the weight of the rebar).
Along the way, I thought about things like layout, materials, form removal, etc. For instance, I plan to build these on the front half of the garage slab. I will build the back half of the quonset for use as a shop, and then cover the front half with a large tarp to keep the rain out. I can then remove the tarp so the crane can pick up the ribs more easily. I plan to use some #4 rebar to create hooks on the top of the casting. In order to remove the form later, I will need a slot in the form that I will plug with pieces of scrap insulation during the pour. For a base, I plan to use melamine sheets that will provide a non-stick surface. I will then need to polish both sides of the form to get a similar finish on the trowel finished side of the concrete. I plan to build two forms, one left handed and one right handed… There are a few different configurations to lay these out next to each other to minimize the space needed, I think I will go with a 24×24 layout that will require 5 sheets in the top layer, 6 in the middle layer and 1 in the bottom.
Here are some pics with a few more details…
- Rib assembly. The brackets are screwed into the 2x# forms, which are bridged together with plywood scraps and all of that is screwed down to the melamine base… but the sidewalls are not actually screwed to the brackets…
- A detail of the hanger. The PVC pipes along the spine will make it easier to set the vertical rebar and feature ridged insulation wedges. The PVC is held to the form by a screw which is removed before the forms.
- Rebar skeleton, mostly #5 rebar tied together with #3 rebar loops.
- The loops are mostly spaced by 8 inches, but the engineer specified that the spacing be reduced to ~4″ near the high end of the lower spandrel.
- Closeup on the high end spandrel. You can see the PVC holes that will help tie the rib into the central tower.
- Low end of the form. The white PVC pipe will allow the rib to slide over a 1″ steel post in the foundation. The green “hangers” are 2×6 boards that will keep the form from bowing and help me suspend the rebar skeleton.
- Table to calculate costs of the forms and rib material